I don't know... I liken it to the way my husband kills bugs. He taps them and often they get away. I obliterate them... and not many escape me. Although, it has led to the need for spackle and paint on occasion. Fortunately, we rarely see bugs here in Colorado.
I'm sure Israel is very advanced technologically, as is the U.S. The problem in Iraq was that we went in with too few troops and tied our own hands in an effort to "fight fair." Is war ever fair?I certainly do not want to see innocent people killed.
It just seems to me that by not dealing with things effectively in the first place, when you have more than the capability to do so, costs more in the long run in terms of lives and dollars.
Susanne left me this comment:
Wow, it's disturbing to read of Palestinians likened to bugs that need obliterating all at once so the problem won't crop up again and cost more money and lives. Amazing!
I guess these people don't have souls worth saving? Just so long the Zionists are saved here on earth, the others be damned to hell for eternity, right?
Whatever happened to "overcome evil with GOOD"? I think that would be from Jesus. And you think your method trumps His? Yours is better than GOD's?!
I don't see the world in better shape for all the conflicts of "fighting evil" that we have done in recent years. What gives? Whatever happened to "if your enemy is hunger, feed him" and all that stuff? Where does bomb the daylights out of 'em and hope they all die like bugs come from?
Is there any wonder not many people want Christianity? THIS is being the light of the world?
And then this comment:
Please quickly scroll through the pictures at this link. Do you see these as precious people who need Jesus or bugs that need obliterated once and for all?
Thank you for your consideration.
I immediately e-mailed her and said that I would respond in another post on my blog. That was two months ago.
The truth is that I feel very convicted by Susanne’s words and ashamed of my choice of analogy. I was referring to the terrorists, not the Palestinian people. However, I can see where my comment could be taken the way that it was and for that I apologize.
I never did click on the link she left until recently. I sensed that whatever she linked to would upset me. I did start doing some research and quickly became overwhelmed by the scope of it all. I then entered into a cycle of trying to put it out of my mind, doing research, trying to walk away from it, and then back to researching again. The more research I do, the more questions I have. When I finally did click on that link I had come to the conclusion that I, as well as most Americans and Christians are misinformed. What I saw, did in fact, upset me.
In many ways I am very much a girly girl. However, at the same time I find emotions highly suspect and don’t trust them. I have the ability to step out of the emotional and look at things from other perspectives. It is a sort of zooming in and zooming out. There is always a bigger picture. At the same time, the fact is the bigger picture is comprised of all the small pictures. I sometimes try not to zoom in too closely because it is then that it is hardest for me to zoom back out.
In my mind, Israel became a nation in 1948 when the United Nations gave them land in Palestine after the atrocities inflicted on the Jews through WWII giving those displaced by the war a place to live and heal. I equated Zionists with those who led the Revolution here in our country. God entered into an elaborate and eternal blood covenant with Abraham. In this covenant, God gave the Jews a biblical mandate to possess the land forever (Genesis 15:8-21) and that is the reason why we Christians support Israel as a nation.
Through my research everything I have believed about the ongoing conflict in Palestine has been turned upside down.
First of all, Zionism got its start in the mid 1800’s. The Zionist movement was officially announced in 1897 and the goal was to create a nation for Jews in Palestine. Turkey was in control of Palestine at that time and refused to give any part of it to the Jews. Small numbers of Jews moved to Palestine and initially the Arabs were not concerned.
The Zionists turned to Britain in an effort to advance their cause. In 1903 Britain offered some land in Uganda but they were only interested in Palestine. During WWI the French and British governments gave Zionists documents that expressed support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine. The French document was vague and never went anywhere. The British document, known as the Balfour Declaration, stated that the British government would help the Zionists create a homeland for the Jews as long as it didn’t bother the Palestinians.
In 1918 British troops drove Turkey out of Palestine. Due to the length of time they were under Turkish rule the Palestinians did not have a government. Britain agreed to protect Palestine until they were ready to self govern. In 1922 the League of Nations agreed to a policy extending that protection to 1948. The Zionists put pressure on the British government to allow them into Palestine. Britain allowed them to emigrate in small numbers but fighting began to break out between the Jews and the Arabs. Britain then entered into a cycle whey they tried to placate both groups where they would allow Jews in and then would not.
After WWII the Zionists took the Balfour Declaration to the League of Nations. As Jews fled Europe the size of the Zionist movement increased. The Holocaust gained the sympathy of the world, understandably so, for the Jews. As the time drew near for Britain to withdraw from Palestine it was clear that they were not in a position to self govern. Britain was trying to recover from the war and was no longer interested in protecting Palestine. They warned the United Nations that there was about to be a problem on their hands.
Representatives of the U.N. tried to figure out how they could divide Palestine into Jewish and Arab states and a plan was drawn up in 1947. A vote was taken that was passed in favor of the plan with 10 countries abstaining, one of which was Britain. But… the resolution to implement that plan was never passed. I was stunned.
At midnight on May 14, 1948, Britain officially withdrew from Palestine. At the same time the Zionists announced the new Nation of Israel using the borders set forth in the 1947 U.N. plan. Initially, only the United States recognized Israel as a nation. Slowly, other nations followed suit. Britain did not recognize Israel as a nation for two years. Interestingly, Israel’s Declaration of Independence in 1948 cites the U.N. “resolution” among items recognizing the right of the Jewish people to establish a state as did the failed 1988 Palestinian Declaration of Independence.
Did you know that not all Jews are Zionists and that not all Zionists are Jews? I did not. In fact, I’ve been reading about Jews who see Judaism and Zionism as incompatible and irreconcilable… that Zionism is rebellion against God and treason to the Jewish people.
I have uncovered writings by well known and respected evangelicals that have historical inaccuracies. What is the truth? There is propaganda thrown out by everyone. I have been reading some crazy stuff! The more I get into this the more I see that the big picture here goes back to the very beginning of recorded history. Whether you believe in God or not, religion is at the core.
I am going to step away from the politics as usual scene here in the United States and concentrate on history. Until I get that straight in my mind I think I am not going to be able to truly understand what is happening now. I also need to really understand what the bible says about war, the differences/similarities between Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, the differences between Zionism and Judaism, why Christians support Israel, and the history of the relationship between Israel and the U.S. I need to reconcile what I know and believe as a Christian with all of this. This even includes my re-evaluating what being a Christian means to me.
I have visited Susanne’s blogs and briefly skimmed through them. I refrained from really reading them because I did not want her personal experience to color my research. It is that zooming in too close for me that brings in the emotional… I do plan on reading them in their entirety at some point. The images on her blog are graphic and deeply disturbing. I know that similar images could certainly be found of the carnage brought on by Palestinian suicide bombers that includes children. I leave you with this image and the heartbreaking knowledge that no matter what the race, religion or political background, a mother’s grief over the loss of her child is the same.
**Note: The post below this one was added later in the day after I posted this one. I decided to move it below this post in order to keep this post at the top.