Wednesday, June 10, 2009

I'm Confused...

In the post below (now above) I stated that the 1947 plan for the partition of Palestine into two states was passed but that the resolution to implement it was not. I probably did not word that correctly. I came to that conclusion through the following found at Wikipedia:

The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine or United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) Future Government of Palestine was a plan adopted by a decision of the General Assembly on November 29, 1947.[1][2] The decision recommended the division of the western portion of the Mandate of Palestine into two provisional states, one Jewish and one Arab, and provided the framework for a regional economic union. The General Assembly also recommended that the City of Jerusalem not be included in either state, but, rather, be placed under a special international regime administered by the United Nations (a corpus separatum). A transitional period under UN auspices was to begin with the adoption of the resolution and last until establishment of the two states. The resolution contemplated a gradual withdrawal of British forces and termination of the British Mandate of Palestine by August 1, 1948, and full independence of the new states by 1 October 1948.

The plan was approved by a vote of 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions. On March 5, 1948, the United Nations Security Council reached an impasse when it refused to pass a resolution which would have accepted the partition plan as a basis for Security Council action.[3] The United States subsequently recommended a temporary UN trusteeship for Palestine "without prejudice to the character of the eventual political settlement", and the Security Council voted to send the matter back to the General Assembly for further deliberation.[4] The General Assembly decided to appoint a Mediator, and relieved the Palestine Commission from any further exercise of responsibility under resolution 181 (II) of 29 November 1947.[5]

While the plan was never implemented, Israel's Declaration of Independence of May 1948 cites the UN resolution among the items recognizing the right of the Jewish People to establish a state. The Palestinian Declaration of Independence of 1988 (one of the attempts to create a "Palestinian state") similarly recalls the partition plan as being among the sources entitling Palestinian Arabs to statehood.

The entire page can be found here.

Everything else I have been looking at states that Israel became a state through the U.N. resolution. I don't get it. The U.N. plan was never implemented and while the Zionists initially declared their state along the borders outlined in the plan, they definitely did not abide by those borders. Of course, this source is Wikipedia and it is my understanding that people can add to things. I'm going to look for other sources to confirm this. Wouldn't the resolution have protected the Palestinians? Or did the fact that the plan was not implemented and the Zionists declared their state mean that the Palestinians were just left twisting in the wind?


BLBeamer said...

The Palestinians have been screwed for decades. By the Israelis, yes, but never more so than by their Saudi, Syrian, Egyptian, Jordanian, and other Arab brethren.

I have particular sympathy for the Palestinian Christians who, as it turns out, were the subject of a short article in the current National Geographic. It gives a hint of the diverse societies in the Middle East.

I'm not one who believes that the Israelis have been 99 and 44/100% pure, but any society which collectively thinks that Arafat was a force for good, is a deeply deluded society.

The day the Palestinians can denounce the life and legacy of Arafat, will be a day that they may find their eyes opened to who their real enemies have been.

Louai said...

Coffee Bean Great stuff !

I was speaking about the same topic with my British colleague last week !,
The idea here is not who did that to Palestine (it is too clear !),in 1948 Egypt (the biggest Arab country at that time) still under the British empire in one way or another ,Syria is a fresh independent country (after 425 years ,400 years under Ottoman and 25 years under the French)without a regular army and during that even more we lost some parts of north west part of the our land after the collapse of Ottoman empire, Jordan lost half of it land in this conflict ?!
No regular army ,an clear political situation and most of Arab countries still under control of some Western countries such as : Jordan,Algeria,Sudan,Egypt,Libya,Tunisia,Morroco,Iraq,,,, and so on so forth ,
then you said they should blame Arabs ,Please read the complete history then i am ready for any discussion !

I still remember our greatest Christian prime minister at that time when he said "If you come to survive us (means Christians) from Muslims ,we dont need that we are living like brothers or more" Fares Khury, you can’t feel like him or understand what he means even if you are a Christian because you didn’t even visit any part of this land ?
It’s actually difficult to judge from your tiny perspective information from one article or another about the most complicated region in the world at that time ..

I would like to remind you about their real enemy who killed innocent people last year in Gaza, and the list is sooooo long ,which i can’t even count it !
I think if you still using these words ,Enemy-Blame , its clear that we can’t have any discussion since you don’t accept any evidence nor normal speaking with us without using the above mentioned words .
I will remind you my friend :Mathew 5 :44 “But i tell you :love your enemies and pray for those who persecute them ” then it’s our honour to be their (Palestanian)enemies ,if that what you want .

If you would like to speak about Arafat, what is your recourses ? Wiki ?CNN? some articles here or there ? the life of Rafat is much more complicated than any of your heros (he obviously not my hero), please refer to the topics :
-the six days war ,Lebanon civil war ,Israel in Beirut 1982 ,Arafat in Kuwait ,Tunisia ,the forces leaving Lebanon

To be honest , i love reading about our history and my library is full of books about the above topics ,yet i still say we have a missing chain ,so I dont think again blaming and blaming is the right thing ,especially that you are speaking about is a DEAD BODY (Who can’t do anything )!!??

BLBeamer said...

Louai, I was responding to Coffee Bean's post. I said the Palestinians are being screwed by everyone, even their long-time leader, Arafat (no hero of mine, either).

It seems we largely agree with each other in that regard.